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? >> right. just for all purposes of full disclosure here, i think that -- i believe in religion and i'm not an atheist by any means. but this has been very clear and determined by the courts that this is a violation of the establishment clause of the constitution or the first amendment. and why that is is because you can not have an entanglement of public and religion here. that's what's going on. this is a public school and this is the school putting a seal of approval on a religious piece of art. >> ainsley: okay. david, we want to hear the other side of this because any time we see a nativity, a portrait of jesus, the ten commands, we know it's a matter of time before the aclu will get involved. do they have a case here? >> certainly they may have a case burks i don't think they're going to be victorious. it's not as easy it was just explained. this is a convoluted type of thing. this particular situation is sponsored by a private club within a public school. the supreme court has been very clear -- >> which case? you're absolutely wrong. there has been no case. >> i'm in the middl
witnessed the homily from pope francis. during this mass, the holy communion. our religion correspondent lauren green in rome for us this morning. lauren, people of the faith are very well familiar with this process. >> absolutely. i want to clarify something, that pope francis is not offering communion to the masses but only to the deacons there. estimates say that about 150,000 people in st. peter's square, that column-lined street leading to the vatican. there are priests going to the crowd that will venture communion to the people, to anybody who wants it. nobody will be turned away. those yellow and white umbrellas, those are indications to the people in the crowd that communion is being served and they should head to one of those umbrellas if they want to be served. we're not quite sure how long the communion will last. but everybody will be served. and everybody who wants to partake of the meal can. >> father murray, father gerald murray from holy family church in new york with us this morning as well. the body of christ, the bread of heaven and catholics believe that there's a tr
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